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Gaudette is having a pretty good NCAA season, but he looks like a 2nd/3rd line tweener, not some 1C dude


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 Post subject: Re: Horrible overreactions by members of HFboards/captain
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As someone who is a big Connor Brown fan, I take full offense to a few of the posters who are doubting him.

This kid was a top scorer in the OHL and captained McJesus. He was drafted so low by the leafs because he was an absurd -62 or something on an extraordinarily bad Erie team. Since being drafted, he has done nothing but lead every team he plays on offensively and defensively.

This kid came to the AHL and won rookie of the year putting up nearly 60 points and being the top scorer on an up and coming Marlie team. He wasn't a purely offensive guy either, he was widely considered as one of the top 2 way players in the AHL and was a top notch PK guy.

He has more than paid his dues for this franchise and he bleeds blue and white. He has worked for every opportunity he's gotten as a pro and he's done nothing but excel and win. Last year's Marlies team relied heavily on Leivo, Brown and Willie. Brownie is a homegrown talent who has gone from being a small slow scoring winger on a **** team to a 35-40 point winger in his rookie season playing shutdown minutes and on the PK. He has been exceptional in his role this season and he's done it with a big smile on his face. He's as competitive as they come and I can guarantee you that in the not too distant future he's going to be rocking a letter on his leafs jersey. He's going to be a huge part of this team whether you like it or not. He's the epitome of a 200 foot player and once he gets more comfortable to let his skills and creativity take over, the whole city will endear him because TO loves their hard-nosed skilled guys and he's exactly that.

Lastly, he is as versatile as they come. Oh and the kid has a rocket for a shot. Very deadly and accurate. Watch for that one day too.

When he got called up last year, he played with bozo and JVR I believe and looked like an absolute gem. If I'm not wrong he had 6 points in 7 games and was sent down early because he was ****ing up our tank.


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How the hell did Craig Adams play 951 games in the NHL?

Almost unbelievably bad goal-scoring, garbage FO%, a minus player every year... the uselessness doesn't end. I know Disco Dan Bylsma was obsessed with him, but he clearly wasn't the only one. Slush money from Brunei? Harvard old boys network? How??


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Who elongating Craig Adams career, Craig Adams????


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 Post subject: Re: Horrible overreactions by members of HFboards/captain
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Report: Leafs in on every single player that doesn't fit their only position of need, defense. This has been going on for over 15 years and its the sole reason why the franchise is the laughing stock of the league.

Icing Marincin/Marchyenko in the top-6 for the playoffs was a garbage move by management, you need 7 NHL defenseman for a playoff run and they didn't have that quantity, Marleau cap hit was a garbage signing at the incorrect position again.

Even with a "can't screw up" core, the management group is screwing up a lot.

Here's to another fantastic chance to win the cup (with insane production on ELC contracts) pissed down the tube because of a blatant failure to address the only position of need. JVR, Bozak, Leo or some combination of them will be lost for free, and 2 fantastic opportunities will have been pissed down the drain due to incompetence.

Sorry leaf fans. Maybe next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Horrible overreactions by members of HFboards/captain
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Jake Virtanen was Jim Benning's best draft pick, and perhaps the greatest draft pick of all time.

It was the year 2014, the end of an era for the Vancouver Canucks. Mike Gillis had just gotten fired. All those years of fruitless drafts had finally come back to bite the Canucks and they had just finished in 25th place out of 30 in the NHL after winning their second of back-to-back President's trophies only two short years ago. The locker room was in disarray and the last thing on the minds of most people in the organization was hockey. The culture that was built brick by brick starting over a decade previous had crumbled. Long time veteran players demanded trades. The rest of the leadership was hanging on to the ship for dear life trying to weather the storm. The players knew change was coming. Everyone else knew that change had to happen.

Enter Trevor Linden and Jim Benning. They had a nearly impossible job ahead of them. How could they change something that was so fundamentally unchangeable? Nearly all of the important players had no trade clauses, which meant that they would be forced to trade dollars for dimes. Especially after the previous GM, as brilliant as he was in his own way, played hardball with the value of his players only to lose his job - the other managers in the league tasted blood in the water. They knew we had to make changes and they weren't going to just help us do it.

The players who remained believed that the team was still capable of winning it all. They had given it their all for their entire adult lives and didn't know how to quit. Linden and Benning didn't know how to not believe in them either. The owners, who only knew success, didn't believe in giving up either. Linden and Benning, likewise, didn't know how to convince them otherwise.

So a course was set, full speed ahead. Change and get better. Trevor had been out of the game for a long time but he had an invaluable and legendary mentor to help guide him. But not for as long as he thought. Things would have been different if Pat were still around but he wasn't and they had to forge ahead without him and with heavy hearts. The man with the most experience to captain the ship was now Jim Benning, who knew many players in the league from his time scouting them as junior league players. He knew what it took to win a Stanley cup, having a ring himself. He knew what the flaws in the Canucks were as his old team took advantage of them a few short years ago. He knew how deep those flaws were and he knew they weren't ever fixed.

Benning knew that in the long term the core he inherited was not salvageable, but in the short term he knew that they had another good year, or maybe two, or maybe three left in them. He was not willing to dismantle the team right away because he would not get fair value back and he would not be doing the right thing by his players. He owed every core player who wanted to stay another year to evaluate what he had, and he did right by all of our core players by giving them everything they needed to show what they can do in the playoffs again.

His first important act as general manager was to draft a player at #6 overall. He had two options infront of him. The first one, which many draftists wanted, was to draft a highly skilled but physically suspect european that could produce points in the NHL sooner rather than later. However that would not change the culture, that would only further cement the old culture. It would also prop up the existing core and further delay a genuine re-stocking of the prospect cupboards. Think about it.

If we would have taken Nylander or Ehlers, and they would have scored the 60+ points with us instead of the Leafs or Jets, we would not have been able to draft Olli Juolevi and we would not have been able to draft Elias Petterson. We would be a middling mediocre team still waiting on the Sedins to retire before truly bottoming out. In that scenario there is no Stanley Cup because even with Nylander and Ehlers we were not close to a cup, and there is no real progress towards building a new contender. On the other hand.
The other option was to draft a raw powerforward that would take much longer to develop. He would not be ready for much longer but his absence of 60+ points would speed along the process of bottoming out and getting high draft picks. The old core would not be propped up by this draft pick because he would not soon be ready to make a significant impact on the team. In addition to this, a powerforward was exactly the kind of player the Canucks needed to make a big change to their identity. All of this turned out to be true and upon hindsight Virtanen was objectively the best pick for the franchise moving forward because he allowed the high performance leadership of the franchise to break their illusions of being legitimate contenders for the Stanley cup.


This marked the beginning of the new era of the Vancouver Canucks. Without picking Virtanen, the new culture would've been a continuation of the old culture which would have been a big mistake. Without picking Virtanen, this team would still be drafting in middle of the draft. Without the Virtanen pick, this team would be scrambling to change its identity again. Without picking Virtanen, this team would now be looking at contending again in maybe 10 years instead of the 3 years it looks like now. The Virtanen pick was always going to define the next era of the franchise whether or not he reached his potential and that was by design.

The most amazing part about this is Virtanen is still only 20 years old and has many years to become the player we all know he can be. His speed is not going anywhere. He will always have elite speed. His offensive instincts have not disappeared. He still has the ability to shoot the puck with elite velocity. Again, he is only 20 years old and he has only had 6 months of a fully recovered shoulder from his shoulder surgery under his belt. He will surprise many people in the coming years. Everyone who is underestimating him is woefully premature.

Yes it's true that another year in the minors will be best for him but after that, watch out. He will finally have learned what it takes to be a professional after his wake-up call and he will be ready to contribute to a team joining Horvat, Petterson, Dahlen, Juolevi, Boeser, Dahlin/high pick, most of whom would not be on this team if Virtanen was not picked. Even if he doesn't ever reach his elite goal scoring potential, he will be a force to be reckoned with on the ice. He will be an impact player regardless of his role. His tools are just too elite and his toolbox and IQ are very very underrated now. The Canucks will be ready to contend for the Stanley cup within 2-3 years. Why?

Because from the beginning, Jim Benning made a promise that he would not trade first round picks and he didn't. It would have been very tempting to do so, and I'm sure he had many offers for the Virtanen pick, the Boeser pick, the Juolevi pick, and the Petterson pick. However, he chose to stay the course because a true rebuild was always in his mind because that was the right thing to do for the franchise. Although uttering the word rebuild would show a lack of confidence in the players he had, he would never do that, because that would not help build the right culture. A GM has to believe in all of his players and also keep an eye on the future and Jim Benning has done both of those with the Virtanen pick and every other move. He will go down in history as one of the best general managers to ever manage a team in the NHL and it will be in large part because he picked Jake Virtanen at 6th overall as his first draft pick.


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Scootin' Dan Cleary wrote:
Report: Leafs in on every single player that doesn't fit their only position of need, defense. This has been going on for over 15 years and its the sole reason why the franchise is the laughing stock of the league.

Icing Marincin/Marchyenko in the top-6 for the playoffs was a garbage move by management, you need 7 NHL defenseman for a playoff run and they didn't have that quantity, Marleau cap hit was a garbage signing at the incorrect position again.

Even with a "can't screw up" core, the management group is screwing up a lot.

Here's to another fantastic chance to win the cup (with insane production on ELC contracts) pissed down the tube because of a blatant failure to address the only position of need. JVR, Bozak, Leo or some combination of them will be lost for free, and 2 fantastic opportunities will have been pissed down the drain due to incompetence.

Sorry leaf fans. Maybe next year.


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In the middle of an excruciating discussion of the Ryan Johansen deal...


2026 is gonna be a bad summer for the leafs


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In the middle of an excruciating discussion of the Ryan Johansen deal...


2026 is gonna be a bad summer for the leafs


it won't be hockey related though, it's a mayoral election year and Doug Ford will probably win


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the canucks are bad but it should still take longer than 4 games before the "Fire Travis Green" thread made its appearance on HF Vancouver


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In a Josh Leivo thread, in response to “What would you be looking for from Edmonton?”

Realistically, I'd only have interest in RNH with retention, Pujlu, or picks within the Oilers system. Obviously, Nurse too (probably unmoveable).


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I’d love to see Canucks management start to pressure Quinn Hughes and his family on how they should get Jack to ‘hold out’ on whoever drafts him 1st next year. Pressure the Hughes family to get Jack into pulling an Eric Lindros. Politics are a dirty game but now is the time for Benning to lay down the hammer.


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HF Boards AKA Talking About Teenage Bodies

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5’9.8 and 173 lbs is what he’s listed in Black Book and their head scout Mark Edwards mentioned in a thread on the main boards that these were taken at the combine (not sure how they got it when he didn’t take the official measurements).

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Interesting. I'd read somewhere that he'd been measured and he was 5'9.75" but that it was a while a go so he could be taller by now. But who knows. I know it's not a huge deal being only an inch, but it would be nice if he could end up being around 5'11" 190lbs when he's fully mature.


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