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Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:13 pm ]
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Wings down 1-0 all of thirteen seconds in

Author:  Paul [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:21 pm ]
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this alternate reality where the Flames are really good and Detroit fans are losing their minds because they're not in a playoff spot is really strange

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:23 pm ]
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I feel like I’m pretty understanding of the Wings missing the playoffs

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:25 pm ]
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Helm just checked Perrault into the boards. He’d lined him up for a clean hit and Perrault did a quick turn to go the other way right before the hit came. No call. I don’t blame the victim much but what’s Helm supposed to do there?

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:31 pm ]
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It was a gross looking hit and Perrault was holding his shoulder but I don't know how Helm's supposed to hold up at that point.

I checked HF Jerts and 90% of the posts were WHY NO CALL THAT SHOULD BE FIVE and one person said Perrault did a tight fast turn into the hit.

Author:  Paul [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:34 pm ]
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Me So Hronek wrote:
I feel like I’m pretty understanding of the Wings missing the playoffs



you are, yes.

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:37 pm ]
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Fuckin’ Thomas Vanek Brain

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 9:45 pm ]
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I had a feeling the Jerts were going to score in final seconds but 1.6 left off a Vanek tip is chef’s kiss

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:11 pm ]
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Little just scored one that changed direction off Green’s stick and bounced off Bernier into the net

It is safe to say this is not the Wings’ night

Author:  Cacophony [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:15 pm ]
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That trade is still more interesting than the Leafs one today.

Author:  Cacophony [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:16 pm ]
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Not sure what’s wrong with the Wangs. Wild are 3-0 vs the Jets this season and they stink.

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:17 pm ]
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Cacophony wrote:
That trade is still more interesting than the Leafs one today.


There were like four incredibly minor deals today

I tried for a while to remember who Morgan Klimchuk was without googling, was unsuccessful

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:19 pm ]
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Glendening Art Ross scores a shorthander on a nice play from ME SO HRONEK

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:35 pm ]
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Cacophony wrote:
Not sure what’s wrong with the Wangs. Wild are 3-0 vs the Jets this season and they stink.


Prior to the Glendening goal I'd say that the Wings' problems in this game are:

1. Bernier is fucking terrible
2. Only the Larkin line was doing much offensively (which is par)
3. Inexplicable deflections on the 2nd / 3rd goals
4. Poor focus

But really it's that Brossoit has played well and even without Ehlers, Byfuglien, and Myers (hell of a law firm), the Jerts still have a lot more talent than the Wings

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:07 pm ]
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Another prime instance of Thomas Vanek Brain

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:08 pm ]
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Last Men In were Skinner, LeTang the Astronaut Drink for Astronauts to Drink in Space, Landeskog, and Draisaitl

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:10 pm ]
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Cholowski scores a nice PP goal

Author:  Paul [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:33 am ]
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every time a Flames goaltender shows the most subtle sign of injury my heart sinks

Author:  Cacophony [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:44 pm ]
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Is everyone FUCKING PUMPED for tonight's epic Wild-Wangs clash!? :wellwood:

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:10 pm ]
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Blood will be spilled in this HEATED RIVALRY

Completely honest prediction: Wings 9 Wild 1. Larkin, AA, and Mantha each have hat tricks. Mike Green somehow has nine assists.

Author:  captain [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:16 pm ]
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captain wrote:
captain wrote:
i'm seeing a bunch of articles talking about the oilers for next year. questions like:

-will they return to the post-season?
-will the defense be better?
-will the penalty kill be improved?
-will talbot hold up?

all of them are missing the biggest question of all: who the hell is going to score goals in edmonton?

last year's scorers (who potted more than 10):
mcdavid - 41
dringus - 25
RNH - 24
strome - 13
caggiula - 13
puljujarvi - 12
khaira - 11
lucic - 10

in:
rieder - 12

out:
maroon - 17

that's nine 10+ goal scorers, including maroon. all playoff teams last year had at least ten 10+ goal scorers, and the ones with ten or eleven usually had top prospect or two who scored at more than a 10 goal / 82 game pace. compared to playoff teams, the oilers are missing at least one regular depth scorer and at least one young contributor who could reliably score 10+ if given the games.

but how are their goals overall? in terms of actual goals for, the result isn't that bad. edmonton's goals-for was 20th "best" in the league. teams like anaheim, LA, and columbus scored only about 3% more and made it in.

looking at goals against, edmonton placed 26th in the league. looking again at columbus, anaheim, and LA, they allowed up to 20% fewer goals than edmonton did. so even though they scored at similar rates to edmonton, they made the playoffs by allowing fewer goals.

now, you might be thinking: "isn't this more a question of the defense being better rather than who is going to score?" i don't think so.

if you simply look at who plays in those cities, columbus has jones and werenski. LA has doughty. anaheim has lindholm and fowler. those teams are built around a cornerstone d-man (or two) who can drive the play and reliably come out ahead against elite players. as much as i like klefbom, edmonton just doesn't have that. this is not news.

in the absence of an elite d-man, the oilers were built as a team that would have to outscore the opponent. we all heard the rhetoric about the "high flying" oilers. however, every year since taking over, chiarelli has traded away more goals than he has gotten back. sometimes the losses are catastrophic (hall for larsson), sometimes more moderate (eberle for strome), and sometimes marginal (losing maroon, signing rieder). but the point is that chiarelli has slowly and systematically chipped away and the only advantage edmonton has.

unless both puljujarvi and yamamoto emerge as legitimate weapons this year, the oilers will miss the playoffs again. simply put, they won't be able to outscore the opposition.


i posted this back in august. chiarelli has since moved edmonton's 4th and 5th best goal scorers from last season for spooner and manning.

these are the same trades as hall for larsson, albeit at a much different scale: trading away players who can score goals for players who can't score (or even prevent) goals. chiarelli's solution is to promote yamomoto and puljajarvi, but neither of these players have shown an ability to make a difference on the scoresheet at the NHL level and should be developing in the AHL. best of all, the acquisitions of manning and petrovic will force jones and gravel, arguably the oilers best pairing at this moment, out of the lineup.

the oilers are 18-17-3 with 44 games left to play. i'm going to predict a finish of 14-25-5, which should have them finishing around 30th place.


update: in a surprising plot twist, petrovic is out with a concussion and manning is in the press box as a healthy scratch, which means jones and gravel continue to get playing time.

to put it another way, chiarelli traded caggiula for a healthy scratch who will only be pushed further down the lineup when klefbom returns

Author:  Cacophony [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:00 pm ]
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Me So Hronek wrote:
Blood will be spilled in this HEATED RIVALRY

Completely honest prediction: Wings 9 Wild 1. Larkin, AA, and Mantha each have hat tricks. Mike Green somehow has nine assists.


Ha well you’ll have to deal with Koivu winning 69/70 draws loser

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:03 pm ]
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Glendening would never lose that many draws

Author:  Me So Hronek [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:04 pm ]
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Koivu: 55%
Glendening: 58%

Author:  Cacophony [ Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:06 pm ]
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Me So Hronek wrote:
Koivu: 69%
Glendening: 69%

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